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New HGRAC Regs in China and suicee in exporting plasma/serum samples out of China?

  • 1.  New HGRAC Regs in China and suicee in exporting plasma/serum samples out of China?

    Posted 10-20-2023 15:37
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    With the new HGRAC regulations issued in June in China that remove the restrictions for exporting clinical study plasma and serum samples out of China, does anyone have success in exporting such samples?

    Thomas L.Tarnowski
    Gilead Sciences, Inc



  • 2.  RE: New HGRAC Regs in China and suicee in exporting plasma/serum samples out of China?

    Community Leadership
    Posted 10-23-2023 18:05

    Several companies, including our have had success even before the rules were changed.  With the new rules, other companies are attempting export and those that have had success in the past are considering increased exporting.  There is active discussion on this topic at the monthly calls for the AAPS China BA discussion group.  Send me a note if you are interested in participating.



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    Eric Woolf Ph.D., FAAPS
    Scientific Associate Vice President
    Merck and Co Inc
    West Point PA
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  • 3.  RE: New HGRAC Regs in China and suicee in exporting plasma/serum samples out of China?

    Posted 10-24-2023 10:05
    While we've recently had success with exporting samples from China (once), I'd be interested in joining the discussion. 

    Regards//Russ 
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  • 4.  RE: New HGRAC Regs in China and suicee in exporting plasma/serum samples out of China?

    Posted 10-25-2023 11:22
    Dear Eric,

    I am interested to be part of this discussion. I have experience exporting study samples few years before from China. This discussion will help to learn the current process.

    Regards,
    Sangeetha Makkineni 
    Head of Operations- Large molecule bioanalysis





  • 5.  RE: New HGRAC Regs in China and suicee in exporting plasma/serum samples out of China?

    Posted 10-26-2023 06:59

    In the past we were doing other way around. I established a good-quality bioanalytical lab in China and inported biological samples of a gloabal trial into the country and analyzed all samples together to avoid cross-validation and take advantage of low bioanalytical cost. Guess we have to look at pros and cons of exporting the samples out of China. Anyway, I'd like to join the discussion.



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    Linglong Zou Ph.D.
    Founder and CEO
    Kanwhish Biotech
    Fremont CA
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  • 6.  RE: New HGRAC Regs in China and suicee in exporting plasma/serum samples out of China?

    Posted 10-26-2023 07:59

    Hi Eric, 

    Could you please add me to the discussion. We routinely ship samples into China, but have faced challenges on the type of shipments and paperwork. Shipments out of China - we are less successful 

    Ritankar 



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    Ritankar Majumdar
    Senior Lead Scientist
    Covance Inc. - Chantilly, Va
    Chantilly VA
    [email protected]

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  • 7.  RE: New HGRAC Regs in China and suicee in exporting plasma/serum samples out of China?

    Posted 10-27-2023 08:30

    Hi Eric,

    I am interested in joining that discussion.

    Thanks!



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    Jad Zoghbi
    Scientific Director
    Biogen
    Cambridge MA
    [email protected]

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  • 8.  RE: New HGRAC Regs in China and suicee in exporting plasma/serum samples out of China?

    Posted 10-27-2023 09:33

    I'd be interested joining this discussion Eric

    thanks

    John



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    John L Allinson
    Vice President - Biomarker Services
    Immunologix Laboratories
    Tampa, Fl
    [email protected]

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  • 9.  RE: New HGRAC Regs in China and suicee in exporting plasma/serum samples out of China?

    Community Leadership
    Posted 10-28-2023 21:50

    Hi Eric,

    I am happy to participate in the discussion and learn about the recent changes. 

    Best regards,

    Mark



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    Mark Ma Ph.D.
    VP. Head of Translational Clinical Sciences
    Rallybio
    New Haven CT
    [email protected]

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  • 10.  RE: New HGRAC Regs in China and suicee in exporting plasma/serum samples out of China?

    Posted 10-30-2023 16:05

    Hi there,

    I'd be interested in participating in the conversation as well.

    All the best,

    Marie

     

     

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  • 11.  RE: New HGRAC Regs in China and suicee in exporting plasma/serum samples out of China?

    Posted 11-01-2023 15:04

    I am also interested in this discussion.  Thank you

     

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  • 12.  RE: New HGRAC Regs in China and suicee in exporting plasma/serum samples out of China?

    Posted 10-31-2023 09:56

    Hi Eric,

    thank you, I am interested. Could you please add me to the discussion? Thanks!

    Rita



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    Rita Martello Ph.D.
    Associate Director
    EMD Serono, Inc.
    Billerica
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  • 13.  RE: New HGRAC Regs in China and suicee in exporting plasma/serum samples out of China?

    Posted 11-13-2023 13:15

    Hi Eric,

    I would be interested. We are currently looking at bioanalysis in China due to difficulty exporting, but if there is meaningful change here would be interested to hear.

    Thanks,

    Anthony



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    Anthony Roberts
    Associate Director
    CSL
    Parkville VIC
    [email protected]

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  • 14.  RE: New HGRAC Regs in China and suicee in exporting plasma/serum samples out of China?

    Posted 01-09-2024 15:17

    Hi Thomas,

    I would like to follow up with you regarding your question about the success of exporting plasma/serum samples out of China. I haven't seen any responses from others regarding their success in exporting these samples. Could you share if you have succeeded in exporting the clinical study samples? I am interested in understanding any obstacles you encountered and how you overcame them, if you were successful. If not, could you elaborate on the challenges you are currently facing?

    thanks

    Preeti



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    Preeti Dhawan
    Associate Director Biomarker and Bioanalytical
    Terns Pharma
    Foster City CA
    [email protected]

    Disclaimer: Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer.
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  • 15.  RE: New HGRAC Regs in China and suicee in exporting plasma/serum samples out of China?

    Posted 01-10-2024 01:14

    Hi Preeti-

    We have only begun the process of trying to export human plasma/ serum samples from clinical studies from China, which is why I had posted the original message.  Right now we have been asked for verification that the US lab is qualified to analyze such samples and are trying to understand what that means.  We often get a somewhat similar query from foreign health authorities asking for a certification of our us CRO for a bioanalytical method, and provide an official  statement from our QA group explaining that the CRO has been audited and deemed qualified.  I don't know if that is what China is seeking, or something else.  

    Tom

    Thomas Tarnowski, Ph.D.

    Executive Director, Gilead Sciences 



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    Thomas Tarnowski
    Executive Director
    Gilead Sciences Inc
    Burlingame CA
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  • 16.  RE: New HGRAC Regs in China and suicee in exporting plasma/serum samples out of China?

    Posted 01-11-2024 12:33

    Thanks, Thomas! Hope things work out for you.



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    Preeti Dhawan
    Associate Director Biomarker and Bioanalytical
    Terns Pharma
    Foster City CA
    [email protected]

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  • 17.  RE: New HGRAC Regs in China and suicee in exporting plasma/serum samples out of China?

    Posted 01-15-2024 23:51

    Regarding some specifics of requirements for sample export from China to the US, I have been asked by others at Gilead, including Kinjal Satasiya in the Biomarker and Bioanalytical Operations (Sample Management) ,who is a member of the China BA discussion group organized by Eric Woolf, to post the following questions to this Community:

    1. A new request for China Customs for the shipping of such samples is:  "Description of the foreign recipient/ the recipient's qualification/ sample risk recognition and acceptance statement."  This would be the US CRO lab that is to receive the samples, correct?  Any tips on providing the description?  Does anyone know any logistic vendor in China with experience on  how to draft the description of the foreign recipient?
    2. Does anyone have any CIQ application experience to share (tips for success, lessons learned)?

    -Tom

    Thomas L. Tarnowski, Ph.D.

    Executive Director, Bioanalytical Chemistry

    Gilead Sciences, Inc.

    333 Lakeside Drive

    Foster City, CA 94404

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    Thomas Tarnowski
    Executive Director
    Gilead Sciences Inc
    Burlingame CA
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  • 18.  RE: New HGRAC Regs in China and suicee in exporting plasma/serum samples out of China?

    Community Leadership
    Posted 01-17-2024 10:00

    Hi Thomas,

    I believe you are correct that CIQ is requesting information on the lab receiving the samples.  With respect to qualifications, you might include their regulatory inspection history and with respect to risk, indicate that the lab routinely handles human clinical samples and has the appropriate safety procedures in place to minimize risk.  As far as logistic vendors, you might reach out to the central labs with branches in China (Labcorp, PPD, Q2).  My understanding is that prior to the requirement that PIs complete the CIQ application, they used to provide this service for samples from studies for which they were contracted.



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    Eric Woolf Ph.D., FAAPS
    Scientific Associate Vice President
    Merck and Co Inc
    West Point PA
    [email protected]

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  • 19.  RE: New HGRAC Regs in China and suicee in exporting plasma/serum samples out of China?

    Posted 04-01-2024 21:06

    Hi Thomas

    I wanted to follow up if you are successful with setting up CIQ application from China central Lab.

    Thanks



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    Manish Kumar
    Associate Director, Clinical Bioanalytical Science
    Daiichi Sankyo Inc.
    Morrisville NC
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  • 20.  RE: New HGRAC Regs in China and suicee in exporting plasma/serum samples out of China?

    Posted 04-02-2024 02:15
    No success yet for our pilot study effort after roughly 6 months of filling out forms, applications, and responses for information.
    Tom





  • 21.  RE: New HGRAC Regs in China and suicee in exporting plasma/serum samples out of China?

    Posted 04-02-2024 08:36

    Hi Thomas - If possible, can you share what's been going on for the 6 months that you mentioned? Are you getting resistance to export plasma/serum samples despite the new guidance or is it just a lengthy process of completing paperwork and addressing agency questions?

    Thanks,

    Susan



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    Susan Irvin, PhD, PMP
    Regeneron Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
    Tarrytown, NY
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  • 22.  RE: New HGRAC Regs in China and suicee in exporting plasma/serum samples out of China?

    Posted 04-05-2024 17:47

    Hi Thomas,

    We were successful in getting serum/plasma samples back for 2 projects in last year. It is surely a long and complicated process. Two things we think that were important for this success are the port of export - Shanghai and the central lab used for the process, though these are just based on limited of attempts. Central lab with their operation in China like Lacorp have an established CIQ system. We think this helps to speed up the process. 



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    Siddharth Jindal
    Senior Scientist
    Takeda Global Research & Development Center, Inc
    Cambridge MA
    [email protected]

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