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Immunogenicity Risk Assessment Tools and their utility in the light of New Approach Methodologies or NAMs

  • 1.  Immunogenicity Risk Assessment Tools and their utility in the light of New Approach Methodologies or NAMs

    Community Leadership
    Posted 07-31-2025 10:06

    Recent guidance from FDA asks for reduced, refined or potential replacement of animal testing requirement using a range of approaches, including AI -based computational models of toxicity and cell lines and organoid toxicity testing in a laboratory setting (also referred to as New Approach Methodologies or NAMs data;).

    The inclusion and implementation of such data is encouraged for investigational new drug (IND) applications. The risk assessment tools for immunogenicity have been employed during preclinical development for reduction of liabilities due to intrinsic and extrinsic risks and bringing the least risky candidate forward for clinical trials.  These qualified tools can act as surrogate for understanding potential immunotoxicity and immunogenicity in humans as the animal studies are reduced.  

    I would like to invite members who would be interested in joining me in discussing this topic as part of the TPI and IRAM community .



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    Vibha Jawa
    Chief Scientific Officer
    Epivax
    Disclaimer: Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer.
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  • 2.  RE: Immunogenicity Risk Assessment Tools and their utility in the light of New Approach Methodologies or NAMs

    Posted 08-01-2025 07:30

    Hi Vibha,

     

    Please include me in the discussions related to the IVISIA methods and NMA as part of the TPI and IRAM community.

     

    Thanks

     

    Elisa

     


    Dr. Elisa Oquendo Cifuentes (she/her)
    Senior Research Fellow, DMPK

    Boehringer Ingelheim Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
    900 Ridgebury Road | Ridgefield CT 06877

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  • 3.  RE: Immunogenicity Risk Assessment Tools and their utility in the light of New Approach Methodologies or NAMs

    Community Leadership
    Posted 08-05-2025 14:02

    Elisa

    Sure will invite you through an email invite



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    Vibha Jawa
    Chief Scientific Officer
    Epivax
    Disclaimer: Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer.
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  • 4.  RE: Immunogenicity Risk Assessment Tools and their utility in the light of New Approach Methodologies or NAMs

    Posted 08-01-2025 10:46
    Hi Vibha, 
    I would like to be a part of your discussion group. Inna





  • 5.  RE: Immunogenicity Risk Assessment Tools and their utility in the light of New Approach Methodologies or NAMs

    Posted 08-01-2025 11:02
    Vibha,
    Your comments are way too vague for me to understand what your discussions will be about in terms of "tools" and selecting the best candidate and how that translate to less animal usage.  Do you mean the in silico and in vitro immunogenicity assessment tools that are properly used during candidate selection or modification but not once a candidate is chosen for IND-enabling studies (essentially toxicity) and clinical development, which already don't use animals?  The (human) risk assessment tools also don't used animals as far as I'm aware.  Given the very limited utility and non-translatability of non-clinical immunogenicity I could see reducing or eliminating that, but I don't see that saving any animals from tox studies (maybe mice where a cohort just for immunogenicity assessment (and sometimes TK) might be employed; but even that can be reduced just by microsampling so tox cohorts can be used for that).  

    Anyway, a little more granularity on what you're thinking about might be helpful for me and probably some others to see where you think this might head.





  • 6.  RE: Immunogenicity Risk Assessment Tools and their utility in the light of New Approach Methodologies or NAMs

    Posted 08-04-2025 07:16

    I think Eric is really hitting the nail on the head. Although animal studies have limited translational immunogenicity value, when referring to anti-drug antibody formation, there are still extremely valuable to define monitoring strategies for potential immune toxicities that could translate into humans.  This is specially relevant for peptides and gene therapy products.  It would be really useful to discuss what in vitro assays, besides PBMc and DC:T cell assays, could be qualified to de-risk candidates from an immune toxicity perspective.

    Best,

    Laura



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    Laura Salazar-Fontana
    Founder and Principal
    LAIZ Regulatory Science Consulting SARL
    Epalinges
    [email protected]

    Disclaimer: Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer.
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  • 7.  RE: Immunogenicity Risk Assessment Tools and their utility in the light of New Approach Methodologies or NAMs

    Community Leadership
    Posted 08-05-2025 14:02
    Laura
    Thanks for your comments 
    This would be my intent to discuss where the preclinical study related data provides value and where we can leverage the new human derived in vitro immune functional assays for also understanding mechanistic immune based toxicity   
    Overall, we are making the case to do less immunogenicity assessments in animal species due to their lack of translatability in clinic and having some orthogonal reads with such human derived in vitro assays to aid the toxicologist and DMPK scientists would be beneficial and worth a discussion.





  • 8.  RE: Immunogenicity Risk Assessment Tools and their utility in the light of New Approach Methodologies or NAMs

    Posted 08-06-2025 07:42

    Vibha,

    Fantastic! Then, happy to be part of the working group.

    Best,

    Laura



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    Laura Salazar-Fontana
    Founder and Principal
    LAIZ Regulatory Science Consulting SARL
    Epalinges
    [email protected]

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  • 9.  RE: Immunogenicity Risk Assessment Tools and their utility in the light of New Approach Methodologies or NAMs

    Community Leadership
    Posted 08-07-2025 10:28

    Hi Vibha,

    Thank you for this initiative. I will be happy to be part of this and contribute.

    Best,

    Swati

     

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  • 10.  RE: Immunogenicity Risk Assessment Tools and their utility in the light of New Approach Methodologies or NAMs

    Community Leadership
    Posted 08-05-2025 14:02

    Eric

    Thanks for helping to move this discussion forward

    Sorry for the vagueness of the message.  My intent is to engage drug development scientists who have expertise working with these in silico and in vitro models and the recent in vitro readouts that have helped with TCEs and immune modulatory biologics that could not be tested in animal species and relied on in vitro readouts.  

    Regarding the tools, I would like to highlight the in silico and in vitro tools currently being used preclinically to understand not only immunogenicity risk but also immune toxicity for which animals were being used  conventionally   This would include  the human derived cell based and cell line based assays to understand target engagements, safety outcomes that are dose dependent based on varying levels of receptors or targets on in vitro models and their translation into dosing strategies based on immunotoxicity.  

    Overall, a discussion on where it makes sense to use the NAM approach vs where the animal derived data may still be needed could be a good discussion to have in a group with discovery, DMPK and investigative toxicology scientists. As a community , the preclinical immunogenicity risk assessments have relied on similar assays and readouts so a discussion on which of these assays can be applied to understand the safety signals in absence of animal data would be good to brainstorm on.

    Hope you would be open to joining the kickoff to bring forth your view point

    As the immunogenicity risk assessment field has spent a lot of time discussing these in silico and human in vitro assays and their qualification, these assays could be used to support immuno-toxicity due to target engagement.  Some of the typical end points in animal testing to test for immune suppression or exacerbation include evaluation of cellular immunity (proliferation, ELISpot, flow-based assessments), humoral immunity (antibody titers), inflammation (cytokine secretions and related panels) and histopathology of LNs, and related lymphoid organs.  



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    Vibha Jawa
    Chief Scientific Officer
    Epivax
    Disclaimer: Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer.
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  • 11.  RE: Immunogenicity Risk Assessment Tools and their utility in the light of New Approach Methodologies or NAMs

    Posted 08-06-2025 13:50

    Vibha,

    Thanks for your response and for inviting me to participate.  As you probably know, I'm a bit of a skeptic about what predictive immunogenicity tools in silico/in vitro can tell us, and when it comes to now using these in silico/in vitro cell-based tools for immunotoxicity assessment (which give the focus of this group would seem to entail ADA-mediated toxicity?? or maybe something more expansive??) in a preclinical setting, even more so.  Measuring target engagement as you mentioned as a way to evaluate potential immunotoxicity based on MOA (again--??) also seems an informative stretch.  But having said all that I think I'm too far removed at this point from all these approaches to give any truly informed opinion either way.  But what I'd pose is the following question:  If I got a positive in vitro result from any of these tools indicating potential immunotoxicity risk in humans, would I have enough conviction of their value to inform my decision to move forward into human trials and/or my dosing regimen or clinical trial design?  If the answer is yes, said in vitro data is interpretable in this way, then the use of these tools seems justified.



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    Eric Wakshull Ph.D
    Consultant
    Eric Wakshull Consulting
    Santa Fe NM
    [email protected]

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  • 12.  RE: Immunogenicity Risk Assessment Tools and their utility in the light of New Approach Methodologies or NAMs

    Posted 08-01-2025 14:07

    Hi Vibha,

     

    This is a timely topic for discussion. One more thing to add is to refine our thinking on immunogenicity assessment for GLP tox. The regulatory guidelines still recommend ADA assay validation. Yet some sponsors have adopted new approaches by treating ADA assessment as an exploratory non-GLP component. Just wonder if we as a community should come up with a consensus and align with the new FDA proposal to reduce/eliminate animal study.


    Shuli

     

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  • 13.  RE: Immunogenicity Risk Assessment Tools and their utility in the light of New Approach Methodologies or NAMs

    Community Leadership
    Posted 08-05-2025 14:02

    Shuli

    We will address streamlining of preclinical immunogenicity as part of the discussions.  Thanks for highlighting this



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    Vibha Jawa
    Chief Scientific Officer
    Epivax
    Disclaimer: Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer.
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  • 14.  RE: Immunogenicity Risk Assessment Tools and their utility in the light of New Approach Methodologies or NAMs

    Posted 08-04-2025 09:16

    Please count me in. Thanks.



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    Linglong Zou Ph.D.
    Founder and CEO
    Kanwhish Biotech
    Wayne PA
    [email protected]

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  • 15.  RE: Immunogenicity Risk Assessment Tools and their utility in the light of New Approach Methodologies or NAMs

    Posted 08-05-2025 09:19

    Hello Vibha,

    I would like to be included in this discussion group. Please count me in. Thank you! 

    Best,

    Jayharsh



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    Jayharsh Panchal Ph.D.
    Senior Scientist
    Novo Nordisk
    Burlington MA
    [email protected]

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  • 16.  RE: Immunogenicity Risk Assessment Tools and their utility in the light of New Approach Methodologies or NAMs

    Posted 08-05-2025 14:02

    Hi Vibha,

    I'd like to join the discussion as well. 

    Kind regards,

    Tonya



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    Claudette Fuller
    VP, Head of Nonclinical Safety & Toxicology
    Genmab
    Plainsboro NJ
    [email protected]

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  • 17.  RE: Immunogenicity Risk Assessment Tools and their utility in the light of New Approach Methodologies or NAMs

    Posted 08-06-2025 08:07

    Thank you Vibha for the initiative. Please include me .

    Balu



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    Sathy Balu-Iyer Ph.D., FAAPS
    Professor and Associate Dean for Research
    University At Buffalo - SUNY
    Buffalo NY
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  • 18.  RE: Immunogenicity Risk Assessment Tools and their utility in the light of New Approach Methodologies or NAMs

    Posted 08-06-2025 13:54

    Hi Vibha, 

    I am interested in this topic, please add me to the group. Thanks! 

    Yu-Lu

    Scientist I, Nonclinical Development

    Viridian Therapeutics

    Waltham, MA 



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    Yu-Lu Ma
    Research Scientist I
    Viridian Therapeutics
    Franklin MA
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  • 19.  RE: Immunogenicity Risk Assessment Tools and their utility in the light of New Approach Methodologies or NAMs

    Posted 08-08-2025 00:35

    Hi Dr Vibha,

    Thank you for taking this initiative. I'm glad to be a part of it and look forward to contributing.

    Best regards,

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    Ravi Shankar Maurya
    General Manager, Regulated Bioanalysis, Large Molecule
    Lambda Therapeutic Research Ltd
    [email protected]

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  • 20.  RE: Immunogenicity Risk Assessment Tools and their utility in the light of New Approach Methodologies or NAMs

    Posted 08-14-2025 09:49

    Hi Vibha,

    I'm also interested in joining the discussion.

    Best,

    Rachel



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    Rachel Wong
    Senior Scientist, Clinical Immunology
    Amgen
    South San Francisco CA
    [email protected]

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  • 21.  RE: Immunogenicity Risk Assessment Tools and their utility in the light of New Approach Methodologies or NAMs

    Posted 08-14-2025 09:49

    Hi Vibha, 

    Could you please include me in these discussions? 

    Thank you, 

    Sara

    Sara Rose Krivoshik PhD (she/her)
    SR Scientist, NDS-US

    Boehringer Ingelheim Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
    900 Ridgebury Road | Ridgefield CT 06877

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    Sara Rose Krivoshik
    Senior Scientist
    Boehringer Ingelheim
    Ridgefield CT
    [email protected]

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  • 22.  RE: Immunogenicity Risk Assessment Tools and their utility in the light of New Approach Methodologies or NAMs

    Posted 08-14-2025 09:49

    Thank you Vibha for the initiative. Please include me in the discussion.

    Joe Qing Zhou



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    Qing Zhou
    Director
    Abbvie
    Irvine
    [email protected]

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