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  • 1.  Analyte stability high bias

    This message was posted by a user wishing to remain anonymous
    Posted 03-02-2023 14:18
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    Hello everyone,

    I would like to start a discussion about analyte stability with high bias problem. In ligand binding assay, when an analyte is unstable most commonly we see a percentage of decrease when compared with sample at T0 or the theoretical concentration. I had two biomarker studies, when we evaluated the F/T short term stability, the stressed samples had high bias, which means that the samples that had gone throw multiple F/T cycles had higher concentrations or activity when compared with the unstressed samples. In this case how to properly address the stability in your validation report? If it's a stability issue then how come your stressed sample is more active?

    Any input is appreciated!



  • 2.  RE: Analyte stability high bias

    Community Leadership
    Posted 03-02-2023 17:06

    For this, it is helpful to remember that for ligand binding assays, stability encompasses the three dimensional structure of the protein-protein interactions. If the F/T cycles disrupt the secondary, tertiary, or quaternary structure of the binding surface, you will see changes in the assay even if the molecule primary structure remains intact.

    In this case, it may be that the binding surface of a disrupted structure has higher affinity than the binding surface of the unstressed sample.

    Another potential cause is that what is unstable is some sort of interference in the assay so that removing that component increases the effective concentration.

    Either way, my recommendation would be to strictly control the F/T and match cycles for your calibrators, QCs, and standards. Annoying, but scientifically appropriate.



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  • 3.  RE: Analyte stability high bias

    Posted 03-03-2023 09:30

    To build on what Joleen said, it's not only the analyte that is being stressed, but the matrix as well. A change in the matrix could allow higher recovery of the analyte.

     

    That said, I usually look at stability data with caution, especially frozen long term stability. In my experience, most protein drugs, especially MAbs, are quite stable when frozen. If an LTS timepoint fails, and in particular if it over-recovers, it seems to me more likely a case of analytical variability or artifact than true instability, and bears repeating.






  • 4.  RE: Analyte stability high bias

    Posted 03-03-2023 09:57

    Hi,

     

    Another possibility is that the analyte gets more concentrated upon freeze/thaw cycles. Have you checked whether the tubes were sealed properly (screw cap tube are usually better than snap-cap tubes) and/or the tubes were centrifuged after thawing to pull down any condensation accumulated in the caps?

     

     

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  • 5.  RE: Analyte stability high bias

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    Posted 03-07-2023 11:14
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    Thanks so much Joleen! If it's a 3D structure or matrix interference caused problem, would it be preferable to develop an assay to get rid of these matrix/structure interference or is it generally acceptable as long as these issues being properly discussed and controlled?




  • 6.  RE: Analyte stability high bias

    Community Leadership
    Posted 03-08-2023 14:10

    And you have reached the pinnacle of why critical reagents are so important. While it would be lovely to avoid any issues, the reality is that understanding and controlling is all you can promise. 
    For example, I even found an assay where changing from ELISA (1hr incubation for binding) vs Gyros (spun across for binding step) revealed some discrepancies in long-term stability and only incurred samples not spiked QCs. So the binding was maintained if you let it go to equilibrium but not if a kinetic process. Fun times! But that was under-recovery not over-recovery so at least we had one thing behaving well.



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    Joleen White Ph.D.
    AAPS 2023 Global Health Community Past Chair
    Bioanalytical 101 Course Development
    Head of Bioassay Development
    Gates Medical Research Institute
    Cambridge MA
    [email protected]

    Disclaimer: Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer.
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  • 7.  RE: Analyte stability high bias

    Posted 03-03-2023 11:37

    While @Joleen White, @Jean-Michel Lecerfand @John Kamerudhave valid and interesting points, could I ask an Occam's razor-esque question? Do you define T= 0 as a fresh sample or a sample frozen within 72 h? and If yes, was the analyst spiking the T=0 QCs the same as the person running the F/T stability? The reason I ask is to understand whether the fresh calibrators spiked by the F/T analyst itself has under-recovered and hence your F/T bias shows a higher % value. Our practice has been to independently re-run the samples twice to reproduce the results. I wanted to know if something similar was performed.



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  • 8.  RE: Analyte stability high bias

    Posted 03-06-2023 07:29

    You say it is a biomarker study, and I therefore assume this is related to stability of the biomarker. If you use spiked recombinant protein instead of endogenous biomarker you can sometimes get really odd results. It relates to as @Joleen White write to the disruption of the secondary, tertiary, or quaternary structure. 
    For biomarkers it is therefore essential that you assess the stability of the endogenous biomarker level instead of the spiked recombinant protein. This will give you the true stability of the biomarker. If you are measuring the endogenous biomarker with no additional spike of recombinant protein, and you then see this increase , then your samples are only stabile till you reach this threshold. For many biomarker assay the biomarker is only stable after one F/T cycle, and you only have one shot to analyse the aliquot. Therefore it is also crucial to have several aliquots prepared at the clinical site.  

    All the best

    Marianne



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  • 9.  RE: Analyte stability high bias

    Posted 03-06-2023 08:53

    I 100% agree with Marianne!

    it is essential to assess stability with endogenous material if available. if endogenous material and recombinant material do not behave the same, then matching cycles between samples/QC/Calibrators, as proposed above, is not the best approach.



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    Jad Zoghbi
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    Biogen
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  • 10.  RE: Analyte stability high bias

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    Posted 03-07-2023 11:55
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    Thank you Marianne! I agree with your suggestion. 

    Unfortunately the endogenous analyte level is super low before drug treatment, we had to use spiked recombinant proteins when in-study samples were not available. And collecting multiple aliquots will be the route to take. I really hesitate to report the high bias as a stability problem though, especially when it is an activity assay not LBA. 




  • 11.  RE: Analyte stability high bias

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    Posted 03-06-2023 08:21
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    Hello, 

    We have also seen over recovery in stability samples as well. We found that if we did a quick spin with a small benchtop centrifuge (prior to votexing and dilution at MRD), and then the samples met acceptance criteria. Maybe this could help you as well.